tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19481383.post113357189300859534..comments2023-06-20T08:20:24.701-07:00Comments on The Argument Clinic: No Babies, No SexRoberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07160061641869302097noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19481383.post-1133756390711682792005-12-04T20:19:00.000-08:002005-12-04T20:19:00.000-08:00Without trying to TMI everyone, pregnancy can happ...Without trying to TMI everyone, pregnancy can happen without vaginal intercourse.<BR/><BR/>That said, while I understand your dad's sentiment, you're really arguing for something different.<BR/><BR/>It's like saying we shouldn't patch up people who had car accidents (don't want to go off the road and hit a tree? Take the bus), or who broke their legs skiing (don't want an ACL tear? Stay off the slopes), and so on.<BR/><BR/>What's unfair is not that people who have sex have contraception fail; it's that the fact that they took a risk, however small, is the excuse for saying "you have no right to remedy the consequences of your actions". That's how we get from concern for the life of the fetus into Bizarroworld arguments that it's actually OK to murder an unborn baby, as long as the mother didn't <I>want</I> to have sex.mythagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07138471078836187498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19481383.post-1133745448493082352005-12-04T17:17:00.000-08:002005-12-04T17:17:00.000-08:00Well, minion, there's a very simple way to avoid b...Well, minion, there's a very simple way to avoid being forced to be pregnant - don't get pregnant.<BR/><BR/>Aside from cases of rape or incest, who is being <I>forced</I> to engage in vaginal intercourse?Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160061641869302097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19481383.post-1133741406209506912005-12-04T16:10:00.000-08:002005-12-04T16:10:00.000-08:00This seems like a strawman to me. The argument of...This seems like a strawman to me. The argument of the pro-choice side is that no one should be forced to <I>be pregnant</I>.<BR/><BR/>If the path from conception to child was as painless and risk-free for the mother as it is for the father, then it would be a whole different story.L33tminionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06072892843237363419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19481383.post-1133624459256554402005-12-03T07:40:00.000-08:002005-12-03T07:40:00.000-08:00I disagree. Abortion is an option just as using a...I disagree. Abortion is an option just as using a condom is an option. If you're going to have sex, you have a choice about whether to do so with protection or without. Either way if you get pregnant you have the choice to have an abortion or not. <BR/><BR/>It's similar to how when you're in a car, you have the choice to wear a seatbelt or not. And after you get in a fender bender, you have the choice to see a doctor or not. Sometimes there are more drastic situations requiring a trip to the emergency room whether you're willing or not, and sometimes a pregnancy is dangerous to the potential mother and requires an abortion.zandperlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01700239961953729095noreply@blogger.com